Cheapest RTX 5070 Ti Gaming Laptop has a Problem – MSI Vector 16 Review
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The MSI Vector 16 with RTX 5070 Ti offers solid gaming performance at a competitive price, but it has notable caveats. Its build quality is average, with a metal lid and plastic interior, and it’s relatively heavy for a 16-inch laptop (5.8 lbs). The keyboard is comfortable, but the touchpad has a frustrating double-click issue. Port selection is decent, though rear ports are awkwardly placed. The RTX 5070 Ti delivers strong 1440p gaming performance, but the base model in the US comes with a low-quality 1080p screen, limiting its appeal. Battery life is above average for an Intel HX processor, and the laptop supports Thunderbolt 5. However, the fans are loud in extreme mode, and upgrading is difficult due to a tough-to-open chassis. While the Vector 16 is a good value for its specs, the forced inclusion of a poor display in the US ($1,625) is a significant drawback. Opting for the RTX 5080 version ($2,250) with a better 1440p screen may be worth it for those prioritizing display quality. Overall, it’s a decent budget gaming laptop, but the screen issue makes it hard to recommend universally.
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Ti gaming laptop right now. But there’s a big problem that couldÂ
make all that GPU power pointless. This is MSI’s Vector 16, andÂ
while there’s a lot to like, there’s also a lot you needÂ
to know before you buy. The Vector’s overall design hasn’t really changed, it’s still got a grey finish with metalÂ
lid, but plastic interior and bottom panel. It’s by no means a premium laptop, buildÂ
quality is a solid average with only minor flex. These extra bottom feet underneath help theÂ
keyboard deck feel sturdier, but they also make the laptop a bit less grippy on the desk asÂ
they’re just smooth plastic. Even the front rubber feet don’t feel as grippy as the back, whichÂ
makes it easier to slide towards the front. The lid hinges feel nice and smooth. NoÂ
problems if I try pushing back too far, or if I rip open the lid way too fast,Â
and the screen doesn’t wobble when typing. It’s easy to open, but theÂ
screen doesn’t quite go back as far as most other laptops. StillÂ
plenty for regular viewing though. It’s thicker towards the back, but overall stillÂ
fairly portable for a 16 inch gaming laptop. The laptop alone weighs inÂ
at almost 5.8lb or 2.6kg, increasing to 8lb or 3.6kg withÂ
the fairly large 330 watt charger. It’s only slightly lighter compared to theÂ
previous Vector we tested with RTX 4080, but it’s not that much different comparedÂ
to some of the heaviest 16” models. That’s the case with the charger included. ThereÂ
are plenty of 16 inch models that are lighter, it’s just that in most cases they’re goingÂ
to cost more if you get similar specs inside. And speaking of specs, my configurationÂ
has Nvidia’s RTX 5070 Ti graphics, Intel’s Core Ultra 9 275HX processor, 32 gigsÂ
of RAM, and a 16” 2560 by 1600 240Hz screen. But you can get it with higher orÂ
lower specs with the link below, and if it has a good sale we’ll list it on ourÂ
gaminglaptop.deals website so you can save money. The keyboard has 24 zones of RGB backlighting,Â
which offers a lot of effects, but not as many options as per-key customization. AllÂ
keys and secondary functions get lit up, and you can swap between 4 brightnessÂ
levels with the function and F8 shortcut. MSI’s built in Mystic Light softwareÂ
lets you choose different effects and customize colors, speed and direction. The keyboard has 1.7mm of key travel andÂ
a clicky feel that I like to type with. But the touchpad on the other handÂ
was annoying to use. I’m not sure if it’s just mine, but it feels loose,Â
like there are two levels of click. So this is a normal click and then this is theÂ
weird half click that it does. Full click when you push down, half click, I don’t know it’s justÂ
like there’s two levels and it’s a bit annoying. Port selection is decent overall. IÂ
like that bulkier cables like HDMI, ethernet and power run out the back and stayÂ
out of the way, but it would have been nice to have a Type-A and Type-C on either side.Â
I was surprised to see thunderbolt 5 here, considering the more expensive legion proÂ
7i we reviewed last week didn’t have that. The ports on the back were annoying to use, because this bit of plastic above themÂ
sticks out, meaning you either have to bend really far over to see where theÂ
ports are, or just turn the laptop around. The display outputs are great for getting bestÂ
performance in games with a monitor or running VR, but with no ports connecting toÂ
the integrated graphics it means warmer temps and louder fans if you’reÂ
doing light work on an external screen. Getting inside requires removingÂ
13 Phillips head screws, all the same length. It wasÂ
extremely difficult to open, you’ll absolutely need pry tools. I’llÂ
leave a link to these ones I use below. If you ever make it inside,Â
the battery is down the front, two memory slots are just aboveÂ
near the middle, two M.2 storage slots are found to the left of that, andÂ
the Wi-Fi 7 card is to the left of those. Wi-Fi performance was great and in lineÂ
compared to other laptops with Wi-Fi 7 cards. The speeds from the installed PCIe Gen 4Â
drive were great, but my SD card is capable of speeds 2 to 3 times faster than this inÂ
other laptops. The card doesn’t click in, but it sits most of the way into theÂ
laptop, so less risk of bumping it. Both M.2 slots can easily fit drives withÂ
chips on both sides, and one of them supports faster PCIe Gen 5, but they haven’t labelledÂ
which is which like they did in their Titan. The upgrade score would have been about asÂ
good as most other 16 inch laptops at 6, but I took off half a point forÂ
how hard it was to actually open and upgrade. But if you can open it,Â
there are decent options available. The speakers are found towards theÂ
front on the left and right sides, and they sounded much better than IÂ
was expecting. They’re actually pretty decent with some bass and still clear at higherÂ
volume, but there was some wrist rest vibration. Unfortunately the latencymon resultsÂ
weren’t great in our 5 minute idle test. The Vector is powered by a 4-Cell 90Wh battery. The MSI Center software has displayÂ
power saver enabled by default, which automatically lowers theÂ
screen’s refresh rate to 60Hz when you unplug the charger to save power,Â
and it goes back up when you plug back in. Battery life was pretty good for aÂ
laptop with an Intel HX processor inside, lasting for 6 and a half hours in ourÂ
YouTube video playback test, or more than 20% better compared to the last VectorÂ
we tested, which had the same sized battery. It lost 17% of its battery charge whileÂ
asleep for 24 hours, but this isn’t a fair comparison with the other laptops as itÂ
depends on the size of the laptop’s battery. Here’s how much battery power was lost onÂ
average per hour, which is a fair comparison, and again it’s one of the better resultsÂ
compared to others tested so far. Let’s check out thermals next. The CPUÂ
and GPU are covered by a standard cooler with 3 heatpipes shared between the CPUÂ
and GPU. Air comes in through holes on the bottom panel and gets exhaustedÂ
out of both sides towards the back, and out of the back towardsÂ
the left and right corners. The MSI Center software lets us change betweenÂ
these different performance modes, which from lowest to highest are Eco Silent, Balanced andÂ
Extreme performance. There’s also the AI Engine mode, but we found that pretty useless as powerÂ
limits just adjust based on the window you’ve got in focus, regardless of what background tasks areÂ
running. Extreme mode lets you overclock the GPU, but by default there’s no overclock, so that’sÂ
how we’ve tested. You can also enable cooler boost, which maxes out the fans, or useÂ
advanced mode to customize the fans a bit. There’s also the function plus upÂ
arrow key shortcut which can be used to turn on max fans at anyÂ
time in any performance mode. The internal temperatures are cold at idle. TheÂ
rest of the results are from combined CPU and GPU stress tests, which aim to represent a worstÂ
case full load scenario. If we use the best extreme mode, setting the fans to max speed didn’tÂ
actually help much, and that’s because they’re already quite loud, which you’ll hear soon.Â
Closing the lid to dock the laptop was fine, and strangely using a metal stand to raise the backupÂ
was slightly warmer, which is something I’ve seen from a few laptops this year. Even the coolingÂ
pad I test with, linked below, was warmer with its fan at 800 RPM, while 1400 RPM was needed justÂ
to get it in line with not using a pad at all. It was possible to lower temps quite a bit by maxingÂ
out the cooling pad, but it’s ridiculously loud. Thermal throttling wasn’t happening in this test, so CPU and GPU clock speeds aren’t really thatÂ
different in extreme mode no matter what we do. GPU clock speeds tend to increaseÂ
slightly with better cooling though. The RTX 5070 Ti in the Vector can run upÂ
to 140 watts with Nvidia’s dynamic boost, so it’s a full powered part, however we foundÂ
it to run around 110 watts with the CPU loaded up at the same time in extreme mode. Well,Â
it’s kind of weird, because extreme mode with the fans on auto initially ran closer toÂ
120 watts, but then any time we played around with the cooling the laptop instead shiftedÂ
power away from the GPU towards the CPU. Here’s how an actual game performs withÂ
the different performance modes in use. The native results at ultra settingsÂ
without any upscaling are in purple, while red shows DLSS set to balanced. The AIÂ
engine was basically the same as balanced mode, while extreme mode doesn’t really offerÂ
that much better FPS. Gaming on 140 watts of Type-C power was actually usable,Â
that’s not the case on others we’ve tested. The CPU can use more power in a CPU onlyÂ
workload like Cinebench where the GPU is idle, and this time the AI mode basically replicatedÂ
extreme performance, while Eco Silent mode felt super sluggish and might not work well for gettingÂ
work done. Performance on Type-C charge was decent here too, so that could be used on the go if youÂ
don’t want to carry around MSI’s chonky brick. CPU performance is on the lower side whenÂ
compared to other laptops we’ve tested with the same processor, but it’s also not really thatÂ
different, most of them are in the same ballpark, and 56% higher compared to the last VectorÂ
we tested 2 years ago isn’t bad at all. Unfortunately performance drops likeÂ
a brick when we unplug the charger and run the test on battery power, where thatÂ
older Vector is now basically matching it. As for keyboard temps, most laptops I testÂ
are in the low 30 degrees Celsius range on the keyboard at idle, and the Vector wasÂ
below this as its fans are always active. It’s warmer with the stress tests running, butÂ
it’s nowhere near hot as silent mode limits the GPU to about 50 watts and the CPU to just 15Â
watts. It’s a fair bit warmer in balanced mode, but the wrist rest is still cold and WASD isn’tÂ
hot. Only the back is hot, but you don’t need to touch there. It’s cooler in extreme mode, butÂ
as you’ll hear shortly it’s much louder too, even without manually setting the fansÂ
to max speed, so that’s the tradeoff. The hottest point of the keyboardÂ
near the backspace key wasn’t too bad when compared to most other laptops tested, but that’s because the fans run much louderÂ
than most others – let’s have a listen. The fans were always audible when doing nothingÂ
at idle, which is why it was so cool at idle. The fans get louder in the higher modes, as expected,Â
but extreme mode with the fans on auto was very loud, so much so that setting them to maximumÂ
with cooler boost barely made a difference. It’s actually the loudest laptop we’veÂ
tested in the last couple of years when not including manually setting fansÂ
to full speed. So yeah, not amazing, but don’t forget that balanced mode just belowÂ
it runs significantly quieter, and that gaming in balanced mode doesn’t really lose that muchÂ
performance compared to extreme mode. So you can absolutely still get good gaming performanceÂ
without getting blasted by a jet engine. Alright, we need to talk about the screen, as itÂ
was one of the worst parts of the Vector last gen. I’ve got the 2560 by 1600 240Hz panel option, and it looks decent for somethingÂ
that’s neither OLED or Mini-LED. But the problem is MSI are still offeringÂ
this thing with a low quality 1080p panel option with just 45% NTSC coverage, whichÂ
is technical speak for shit colors no one should be dealing with in 2025. And assumingÂ
it’s the same budget panel in the Vector I tested a couple of years ago, it’s not asÂ
bright and has a very slow response time. The better 240Hz panel I’ve got on the otherÂ
hand goes up to 500 nits at full brightness, and is a fair bit brighter compared to theÂ
lower quality option. In fact there aren’t really that many other laptops brighterÂ
than it unless you step up to Mini-LED. The MSI Center software has display overdriveÂ
enabled by default, which makes the screen faster. With overdrive enabled, we’re lookingÂ
at a 3.8ms average grey-to-grey response time, but if you turn it off things are a bitÂ
slower. Doing this does remove the small amount of overshoot and undershoot, butÂ
for most people, just leave overdrive on. It’s a great result when compared against otherÂ
laptops, only significantly beaten by faster OLED panels. And just look at how it compares toÂ
that lower quality 1080p version in the last gen Vector. If you’ve got the option of both,Â
get the better screen, you won’t regret it. It’s quite fast in the total system latency test, which is how long it takes between clickingÂ
a mouse and when a gunshot fire shows on the screen in Counter-Strike 2. It’s onlyÂ
beaten by laptops with higher tier GPUs, and it’s more than twice as fast compared toÂ
that last gen Vector with the slower screen. The Vector has a MUX switch so you canÂ
disable optimus to get better FPS in games, but it needs a reboot to apply, because MSI areÂ
still the only company who haven’t embraced the future of advanced optimus. Adaptive sync isÂ
available with optimus on, but there’s no G-Sync with optimus off, which means you may experienceÂ
screen tearing with optimus off, not ideal. There’s a 1080p camera aboveÂ
the screen in the middle, and it has IR for Windows Hello face unlock.Â
But the quality isn’t anything special, and here’s how it sounds while typing on theÂ
keyboard. And it also has a privacy shutter. Alright, let’s see how well MSI’sÂ
Vector 16 performs in games. We’ve tested it with these settings for best results. Cyberpunk 2077 was a little behind the onlyÂ
other 5070 Ti laptop we’ve tested at 1080p, but hey, it’s ahead of Razer’s far moreÂ
expensive Blade 16 with 5090. At 1440p it’s close to the RTX 4080, so similarÂ
performance is possible from the 5070 Ti. Alan Wake 2 was close to thatÂ
other 5070 Ti laptop at 1080p, and not far behind the last genÂ
4080, and then similar deal at 1440p, where we’re still able to surpass 60 FPS atÂ
max settings without even using any upscaling. Black Myth Wukong was a few framesÂ
ahead of the other 5070 Ti laptop, and again slightly behind the 4080, and thenÂ
same deal at 1440p, but again the Vector still managed above 60 FPS at high settings, soÂ
the 5070 Ti is definitely quite capable. We’ll just quickly skip through the results withÂ
ray tracing and DLSS upscaling enabled. In most cases frame rates actually end up better with DLSSÂ
on despite the extra resources required to trace those sweet rays, but at the end of the day theÂ
5070 Ti is generally a little behind the 4080. I’m working on a 25 game comparisonÂ
between the 5070 Ti and 4080, so make sure that you’re subscribed for that. Here are the 3DMark results. Content creator results are decent. This isÂ
the first 5070 Ti laptop review we’ve done, so it’s expected to see most 5080 and 5090Â
results ahead, but that’s not always the case. Oh, and forget about content creation if youÂ
get it with the low quality 1080p screen. MSI’s advanced BIOS can be accessedÂ
by entering the usual cheat code, and it gives you an insane amount ofÂ
customization that no other laptop brand offers. If you’re a tuner or a tweaker, prettyÂ
much any option you can imagine can be found here. Linux support was flawless with the latestÂ
version of Ubuntu, everything I tried worked fine. we’re looking at $1625 USD for the RTX 5070Â
Ti version with the best sale we’ve seen so far. Unfortunately this one has the lowerÂ
quality 1080p screen, so watch out for that. The higher tier RTX 5080 version goes for $2250, which is one of the cheaper 5080 laptopsÂ
we’ve seen so far. But what sucks is you’re forced into spending more for the 5080 ifÂ
you want the higher quality QHD+ screen. That might not be the case in other regions,Â
I think here in Australia for instance you can only get the QHD+ 240Hz panel. But rightÂ
now in the US, at least at Best Buy, if you want the 5070 Ti they’re forcing you to get thatÂ
lower quality 1080p screen, which really sucks. Especially as people are consideringÂ
the 5070 Ti laptop GPU with 12 gigs of VRAM as it’s a good sweet spot forÂ
1440p gaming. But then it’s kind of pointless if they’re making you buy itÂ
with a 1080p screen, and then it’s just salt in the wound that the 1080p screenÂ
they’re selling it with kind of sucks. The only positive would be for peopleÂ
who just want a cheap 5070 Ti and plan on docking the laptop and connecting it toÂ
a higher quality monitor. So it depends on your use case, I suspect a whole lotÂ
of people won’t be doing that though. So then, is MSI’s Vector 16 worth considering? Let’s quickly summarize the goodÂ
and the bad to help you decide. Starting with the good, build quality isn’tÂ
terrible for a cheaper laptop, the keyboard feels nice to type on, battery life is well aboveÂ
average for a laptop with an Intel HX processor, Linux support was excellent, the BIOS has plentyÂ
of customization, the lower price means good value for the performance on offer, and it’s actuallyÂ
got Thunderbolt 5 despite being a cheaper laptop. Of course, as usual, nothing is perfect. I can’t believe MSI still aren’t usingÂ
advanced optimus. The weird double click issue with the touchpad was annoying, but thatÂ
might just be our laptop. I don’t understand why they’ve got plastic extruding over theÂ
rear ports, it just makes them harder to use. It is towards the heavier sideÂ
as far as 16 inch gaming laptops go, and the fans are much louder than othersÂ
in extreme mode, though as mentioned you can still get a good balance of performanceÂ
and fan noise with the lower balanced mode. But the main problem for meÂ
is that lower quality 1080p screen option that Best Buy in the USÂ
seems to be forcing with the 5070 Ti. Seriously, if you’ve got theÂ
option between those two screens, I would be willing to spend $100+ more toÂ
get the better quality 1440p option. It’s just going to be worth it for something that youÂ
literally look at every time you use the laptop. To be clear, I think this is a pretty decentÂ
gaming laptop overall considering the price point, and it is worth considering with the betterÂ
screen. It really sucks that at least through Best Buy you’re forced into spending more money toÂ
get the RTX 5080 if you do want the better screen. But if the 5080 is within budget and youÂ
want better gaming performance then find out how much better it is compared to theÂ
5070 Ti over here. I’ve compared both GPUs in 25 games at 3 different resolutionsÂ
to find out if the 5080 is worth it.